sobers
02-16 04:11 PM
This story below just goes to show that if smart scientists and engineers are not available here (because of low skilled immigation and the decepit STEM education), then jobs will continue to be outsourced to where the job can be done. Not only does the U.S. lose brainpower, it loses significant tax revenue which would otherwise have been available if the jobs were located in the U.S. And then, not only do skilled immigrants bring their skills to work for America, they also help build the local economy (home/auto, other capital investments, etc besides local/state/county taxes...).
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NEW YORK TIMES
By STEVE LOHR
Published: February 16, 2006
The globalization of work tends to start from the bottom up. The first jobs to be moved abroad are typically simple assembly tasks, followed by manufacturing, and later, skilled work like computer programming. At the end of this progression is the work done by scientists and engineers in research and development laboratories.
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Report From Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation A new study that will be presented today to the National Academies, the nation's leading advisory groups on science and technology, suggests that more and more research work at corporations will be sent to fast-growing economies with strong education systems, like China and India.
In a survey of more than 200 multinational corporations on their research center decisions, 38 percent said they planned to "change substantially" the worldwide distribution of their research and development work over the next three years � with the booming markets of China and India, and their world-class scientists, attracting the greatest increase in projects.
Whether placing research centers in their home countries or overseas, the study said, companies often use similar criteria. The quality of scientists and engineers and their proximity to research centers are crucial.
The study contended that lower labor costs in emerging markets are not the major reason for hiring researchers overseas, though they are a consideration. Tax incentives do not matter much, it said.
Instead, the report found that multinational corporations were global shoppers for talent. The companies want to nurture close links with leading universities in emerging markets to work with professors and to hire promising graduates.
"The story comes through loud and clear in the data," said Marie Thursby, an author of the study and a professor at Georgia Tech's college of management. "You have to have an environment that fosters the development of a high-quality work force and productive collaboration between corporations and universities if America wants to maintain a competitive advantage in research and development."
The multinationals, representing 15 industries, were from the United States and Western Europe. The authors said there was no statistically significant difference between the American and European companies.
Dow Chemical is one company that plans to invest heavily in new research and development centers in China and India. It is building a research center in Shanghai, which will employ 600 technical workers when it is completed next year. Dow is also finishing plans for a large installation in India, said William F. Banholzer, Dow's chief technology officer.
Today, the company employs 5,700 scientists worldwide, about 4,000 of them in the United States and Canada, and most of the rest in Europe. But the moves overseas will alter that. "There will be a major shift for us," Mr. Banholzer said.
The swift economic growth in China and India, he said, is part of the appeal because products and processes often have to be tailored for local conditions. The rising skill of the scientists abroad is another reason. "There are so many smart people over there," Mr. Banholzer said. "There is no monopoly on brains, and none on education either."
Such views were echoed by other senior technology executives, whose companies are increasing their research employment abroad. "We go with the flow, to find the best minds we can anywhere in the world," said Nicholas M. Donofrio, executive vice president for technology and innovation at I.B.M., which first set up research labs in India and China in the 1990's. The company is announcing today that it is opening a software and services lab in Bangalore, India.
At Hewlett-Packard, which opened an Indian lab in 2002 and is starting one in China, Richard H. Lampman, senior vice president for research, points to the spread of innovation around the world. "If your company is going to be a global leader, you have to understand what's going on in the rest of the world," he said.
The globalization of research investment, industry executives and academics argued, need not harm the United States. In research, as in economics, they said, growth abroad does not mean stagnation at home � and typically the benefits outweigh the costs.
Still, more companies in the survey said they planned to decrease research and development employment in the United States and Europe than planned to increase employment.
In numerical terms, scientists and engineers in research labs represent a relatively small part of the national work force. Like the debate about offshore outsourcing in general, the trend, which may point to a loss of competitiveness, is more significant than the quantity of jobs involved.
The American executives who are planning to send work abroad express concern about what they regard as an incipient erosion of scientific prowess in this country, pointing to the lagging math and science proficiency of American high school students and the reluctance of some college graduates to pursue careers in science and engineering.
"For a company, the reality is that we have a lot of options," Mr. Banholzer of Dow Chemical said. "But my personal worry is that an educated, innovative science and engineering work force is vital to the economy. If that slips, it is going to hurt the United States in the long run."
Some university administrators see the same trend. "This is part of an incredible tectonic shift that is occurring," said A. Richard Newton, dean of the college of engineering at the University of California, Berkeley, "and we've got to think about this more profoundly than we have in the past. Berkeley and other leading American universities, he said, are now competing in a global market for talent. His strategy is to become an aggressive acquirer. He is trying to get Tsinghua University in Beijing and some leading technical universities in India to set up satellite schools linked to Berkeley. The university has 90 acres in Richmond, Calif., that he thinks would be an ideal site.
"I want to get them here, make Berkeley the intellectual hub of the planet, and they won't leave," said Mr. Newton, who emigrated from Australia 25 years ago.
The corporate research survey was financed by the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation, which supports studies on innovation. It was designed and written by Ms. Thursby, who is also a research associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research, and her husband, Jerry Thursby, who is chairman of the economics department at Emory University in Atlanta.
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NEW YORK TIMES
By STEVE LOHR
Published: February 16, 2006
The globalization of work tends to start from the bottom up. The first jobs to be moved abroad are typically simple assembly tasks, followed by manufacturing, and later, skilled work like computer programming. At the end of this progression is the work done by scientists and engineers in research and development laboratories.
Skip to next paragraph
Report From Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation A new study that will be presented today to the National Academies, the nation's leading advisory groups on science and technology, suggests that more and more research work at corporations will be sent to fast-growing economies with strong education systems, like China and India.
In a survey of more than 200 multinational corporations on their research center decisions, 38 percent said they planned to "change substantially" the worldwide distribution of their research and development work over the next three years � with the booming markets of China and India, and their world-class scientists, attracting the greatest increase in projects.
Whether placing research centers in their home countries or overseas, the study said, companies often use similar criteria. The quality of scientists and engineers and their proximity to research centers are crucial.
The study contended that lower labor costs in emerging markets are not the major reason for hiring researchers overseas, though they are a consideration. Tax incentives do not matter much, it said.
Instead, the report found that multinational corporations were global shoppers for talent. The companies want to nurture close links with leading universities in emerging markets to work with professors and to hire promising graduates.
"The story comes through loud and clear in the data," said Marie Thursby, an author of the study and a professor at Georgia Tech's college of management. "You have to have an environment that fosters the development of a high-quality work force and productive collaboration between corporations and universities if America wants to maintain a competitive advantage in research and development."
The multinationals, representing 15 industries, were from the United States and Western Europe. The authors said there was no statistically significant difference between the American and European companies.
Dow Chemical is one company that plans to invest heavily in new research and development centers in China and India. It is building a research center in Shanghai, which will employ 600 technical workers when it is completed next year. Dow is also finishing plans for a large installation in India, said William F. Banholzer, Dow's chief technology officer.
Today, the company employs 5,700 scientists worldwide, about 4,000 of them in the United States and Canada, and most of the rest in Europe. But the moves overseas will alter that. "There will be a major shift for us," Mr. Banholzer said.
The swift economic growth in China and India, he said, is part of the appeal because products and processes often have to be tailored for local conditions. The rising skill of the scientists abroad is another reason. "There are so many smart people over there," Mr. Banholzer said. "There is no monopoly on brains, and none on education either."
Such views were echoed by other senior technology executives, whose companies are increasing their research employment abroad. "We go with the flow, to find the best minds we can anywhere in the world," said Nicholas M. Donofrio, executive vice president for technology and innovation at I.B.M., which first set up research labs in India and China in the 1990's. The company is announcing today that it is opening a software and services lab in Bangalore, India.
At Hewlett-Packard, which opened an Indian lab in 2002 and is starting one in China, Richard H. Lampman, senior vice president for research, points to the spread of innovation around the world. "If your company is going to be a global leader, you have to understand what's going on in the rest of the world," he said.
The globalization of research investment, industry executives and academics argued, need not harm the United States. In research, as in economics, they said, growth abroad does not mean stagnation at home � and typically the benefits outweigh the costs.
Still, more companies in the survey said they planned to decrease research and development employment in the United States and Europe than planned to increase employment.
In numerical terms, scientists and engineers in research labs represent a relatively small part of the national work force. Like the debate about offshore outsourcing in general, the trend, which may point to a loss of competitiveness, is more significant than the quantity of jobs involved.
The American executives who are planning to send work abroad express concern about what they regard as an incipient erosion of scientific prowess in this country, pointing to the lagging math and science proficiency of American high school students and the reluctance of some college graduates to pursue careers in science and engineering.
"For a company, the reality is that we have a lot of options," Mr. Banholzer of Dow Chemical said. "But my personal worry is that an educated, innovative science and engineering work force is vital to the economy. If that slips, it is going to hurt the United States in the long run."
Some university administrators see the same trend. "This is part of an incredible tectonic shift that is occurring," said A. Richard Newton, dean of the college of engineering at the University of California, Berkeley, "and we've got to think about this more profoundly than we have in the past. Berkeley and other leading American universities, he said, are now competing in a global market for talent. His strategy is to become an aggressive acquirer. He is trying to get Tsinghua University in Beijing and some leading technical universities in India to set up satellite schools linked to Berkeley. The university has 90 acres in Richmond, Calif., that he thinks would be an ideal site.
"I want to get them here, make Berkeley the intellectual hub of the planet, and they won't leave," said Mr. Newton, who emigrated from Australia 25 years ago.
The corporate research survey was financed by the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation, which supports studies on innovation. It was designed and written by Ms. Thursby, who is also a research associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research, and her husband, Jerry Thursby, who is chairman of the economics department at Emory University in Atlanta.
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anilsal
12-05 12:09 PM
I see some of the posts about lawyers screwing up..well if I go ahead telling my story in detail, of how he messed up my H-1B filing, people would be amazed. His law office on my qualifications specified "Masters of Science in Science" based on which USCIS sent a simple RFE to specify more about my degree in the US, and to which he didnt even file the reply on time and my case was closed by USCIS. He personally informed me a reply has been filed, which never was due to the way they handle work in the office, I presume..It was anyways a mental harrassment as I not only took advice from 5 different lawyers and had to refile an H-1 and get out of the country to get an I-94.
I think the way some of these lawyers are working, we should ask for things as minute as FEDEX or UPS tracking receipts. Just my two cents.
do not name law firms in your posts-- admin.
That is why the online case tracker from USCIS is important. Get the receipt numbers and you can track as to what is happening - RFE, approval, denial etc and they can email when the case status changes.
I think the way some of these lawyers are working, we should ask for things as minute as FEDEX or UPS tracking receipts. Just my two cents.
do not name law firms in your posts-- admin.
That is why the online case tracker from USCIS is important. Get the receipt numbers and you can track as to what is happening - RFE, approval, denial etc and they can email when the case status changes.
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08-20 03:52 PM
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gcgcgcgc
10-26 05:44 PM
I was surprised to see my AP in hand
It seems it was approved on Oct 9 and my attorney received it on 22 oct
I received it today to be very surprised as the online message still says case received and pending
What surprises me more is that I had called USCIS 2 times between oct 9 and today and they didnot tell me that the case has been approved
Good luck to all
Did you see Oct 9th as LUD on your case? We are trying to figure out if LUD is giving any indication towards when USCIS issues the approval.
It seems it was approved on Oct 9 and my attorney received it on 22 oct
I received it today to be very surprised as the online message still says case received and pending
What surprises me more is that I had called USCIS 2 times between oct 9 and today and they didnot tell me that the case has been approved
Good luck to all
Did you see Oct 9th as LUD on your case? We are trying to figure out if LUD is giving any indication towards when USCIS issues the approval.
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dvb123
03-02 09:25 AM
Bump
eb3_nepa
07-28 01:37 PM
Let us see next month when EB2I will start getting lot of approvals. How many IV members contribute once they get GCs.
The problem here is, that once people get their GC, most cannot wait to get away from this site. I mean forget the actual Green Cards, even once the July 2nd filers got their EADs/APs etc, the activity on this forum has DRASTICALLY reduced.
Is it just me, or post the July 02 2007 filings, IV has been reduced to an "information only" kinda website BY ITS OWN MEMBERS? These days we simply post questions and expect answers, almost nothing seems to be happening. Everyone is content to enjoy the benefits of the I-485 filing and a lot of members have simply stopped visiting the site altogether.
So we can float this idea again, but the point is how many people will actually DO IT? I have started the "Give me a HIGH FIVE" campaign, where all the member has to do is contribute JUST $5.00. Yes JUST $5.00, nothing more. So far we have barely made $3,000. There are atleast 20,000 members who have no problems posting questions and "demanding" responses, but they cannot open their wallets even to the tune of $5.00. Do you really think, such members will contribute $100 AFTER they have already received their Green cards??
The problem here is, that once people get their GC, most cannot wait to get away from this site. I mean forget the actual Green Cards, even once the July 2nd filers got their EADs/APs etc, the activity on this forum has DRASTICALLY reduced.
Is it just me, or post the July 02 2007 filings, IV has been reduced to an "information only" kinda website BY ITS OWN MEMBERS? These days we simply post questions and expect answers, almost nothing seems to be happening. Everyone is content to enjoy the benefits of the I-485 filing and a lot of members have simply stopped visiting the site altogether.
So we can float this idea again, but the point is how many people will actually DO IT? I have started the "Give me a HIGH FIVE" campaign, where all the member has to do is contribute JUST $5.00. Yes JUST $5.00, nothing more. So far we have barely made $3,000. There are atleast 20,000 members who have no problems posting questions and "demanding" responses, but they cannot open their wallets even to the tune of $5.00. Do you really think, such members will contribute $100 AFTER they have already received their Green cards??
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pointlesswait
03-05 06:14 PM
FDIC insures any deposits upto 250000....
so if you have 10k in ur account..even if the bank goes belly up..u can get expectto recover thatamount...but if FDIC goes for a toss..god save US all..;)
crazy times..bro..crazy times..
People,
What does this mean? I am not too strong regarding finances, so asking.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090305/pl_afp/financeeconomyusbankinggovernment
Does it mean there wont be insurance on our bank deposits if this happens?
so if you have 10k in ur account..even if the bank goes belly up..u can get expectto recover thatamount...but if FDIC goes for a toss..god save US all..;)
crazy times..bro..crazy times..
People,
What does this mean? I am not too strong regarding finances, so asking.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090305/pl_afp/financeeconomyusbankinggovernment
Does it mean there wont be insurance on our bank deposits if this happens?
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amirani
03-03 05:27 PM
Get a labor attorney, send a letter of claim to the employer, and request action within 30 days. If no response and amount is under $5000 then go to small claims court, otherwise file a grievance with your state's labor department.
Thanks for the response.
The amount is approx $7000 and after deductions it will be just under $5000...can anybody suggest some good lawyer and what will be the charges...anybody else faced same issue in past....
Thanks for the response.
The amount is approx $7000 and after deductions it will be just under $5000...can anybody suggest some good lawyer and what will be the charges...anybody else faced same issue in past....
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ameryki
09-21 09:00 PM
Your wife may be able to get a transportation letter/returning resident visa from her US consulate. These are usually given to people who have lost their green cards while overseas, but I have heard of consulates giving them to people with lost APs. It's worth asking. Good luck.
Hi above is an update from this end. I do have one more question though. My wife was not given an I-94 when she entered using TL instead her passport was stamped with the arrival date and initials "LPr". I am getting ready to apply for a new AP for us what should I write as her "Class of Admission"? Also do you foresee any issues with the AP renewal since I cannot send them a copy of an I-94?
Hi above is an update from this end. I do have one more question though. My wife was not given an I-94 when she entered using TL instead her passport was stamped with the arrival date and initials "LPr". I am getting ready to apply for a new AP for us what should I write as her "Class of Admission"? Also do you foresee any issues with the AP renewal since I cannot send them a copy of an I-94?
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InTheMoment
03-23 03:40 PM
You can give your OPT A# but once you're assigned a permanent visa number, they'll give you a different number. Your OPT A# is just a temporary number.
I think you mean once you are assigned a permanent A# ! It is assigned before a visa number is assigned.
A number series starting with 1 (eg. for OPT) are temporary. Those starting with 9 are permanent.
USCIS has a regular A# consolidation unit as well as a column to check for more than one A# on their internal worksheet for I-485.
Bottom-line: give your OPT A# and they will take care of the rest. This is what I did and worked.
I think you mean once you are assigned a permanent A# ! It is assigned before a visa number is assigned.
A number series starting with 1 (eg. for OPT) are temporary. Those starting with 9 are permanent.
USCIS has a regular A# consolidation unit as well as a column to check for more than one A# on their internal worksheet for I-485.
Bottom-line: give your OPT A# and they will take care of the rest. This is what I did and worked.
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ksvreg
09-25 02:18 PM
April 2008?
6months gone by and you are thinking of getting back/extension to h1b now?
it's a long time to get back to h1b status. If it is expired, then EAD is our only option now.
Your friends are right to be on h1b while 485 pending; If some thing unusual happens to ur pending 485, you are not thrown out of status. And that is when h1b will be help full.
Just in case; see what your lawyer has to say.
Thanks for the information. I did not understand the last of part of your response. If some unusual happens, how should I get on to H1B when my H1B expired in April 2008.
6months gone by and you are thinking of getting back/extension to h1b now?
it's a long time to get back to h1b status. If it is expired, then EAD is our only option now.
Your friends are right to be on h1b while 485 pending; If some thing unusual happens to ur pending 485, you are not thrown out of status. And that is when h1b will be help full.
Just in case; see what your lawyer has to say.
Thanks for the information. I did not understand the last of part of your response. If some unusual happens, how should I get on to H1B when my H1B expired in April 2008.
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aj_jadeja
04-20 12:12 AM
Chennai does not have an availability till Oct and I am in INDIA in May. I was trying till today to get an apptmt in Chennai but not successful.
I have an AP (through my wife company GC petition), worst case I will use it.
Well now days US consulate have started 'returning worker quota' for every weekday appointment. I used that procedure in Dec 2005. My return date was 2nd Dec 2005 and i went to Visa appointment office on 23rd nov and they gave me appointment for 30th Nov .
I also came to know that mumbai consulate takes some candidates (emergency case) without any confirmed appointment from 9:30 to 10:00 am.
Hope this helps.
Aj
I have an AP (through my wife company GC petition), worst case I will use it.
Well now days US consulate have started 'returning worker quota' for every weekday appointment. I used that procedure in Dec 2005. My return date was 2nd Dec 2005 and i went to Visa appointment office on 23rd nov and they gave me appointment for 30th Nov .
I also came to know that mumbai consulate takes some candidates (emergency case) without any confirmed appointment from 9:30 to 10:00 am.
Hope this helps.
Aj
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sweet_jungle
10-22 06:39 PM
One of my friends had his 485 pending. He took leave of absence from company and went on to pursue full time MBA for 2 years.
In the middle of MBA, company had to remove him from payroll due to re-org.
Green card came in a few months.
He is now doing a hot shot MBA job using GC.
Will he face issues during N-400?
Is there anything wrong in what he did?
In the middle of MBA, company had to remove him from payroll due to re-org.
Green card came in a few months.
He is now doing a hot shot MBA job using GC.
Will he face issues during N-400?
Is there anything wrong in what he did?
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nogcyet
10-30 04:07 PM
My FP was done on 09/21 and there is no LUD neither on my I-140 nor I-485 which is pending. Concurrently filed both I-140 and I-485 on July 2nd.
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gapala
08-02 07:21 PM
Without reentry permit, they cannot enter USA.
If you need reentry permit and if you are outside US, then you can kiss your gc goodbye. You must be in US to apply for reentry permit, otherwise it will be denied...Even the appeal will be denied...Then need to check with local US consulate...
If this is the case, can they take the route of "Follow to join" what are the other options for folks in india?
If you need reentry permit and if you are outside US, then you can kiss your gc goodbye. You must be in US to apply for reentry permit, otherwise it will be denied...Even the appeal will be denied...Then need to check with local US consulate...
If this is the case, can they take the route of "Follow to join" what are the other options for folks in india?
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hypersphere
01-05 03:51 PM
TIme to make this site a paid site with tightly controlled information access and forum features available only to the members.
What is the purpose of increasing the membership is a majority are non contributing members. Doesnt money buys us much more then the membership numbers? Making this site a paid site will drive away most members but the remaining will provide a continuous revenue stream.
What is the purpose of increasing the membership is a majority are non contributing members. Doesnt money buys us much more then the membership numbers? Making this site a paid site will drive away most members but the remaining will provide a continuous revenue stream.
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dxldad
05-18 12:29 PM
While waiting for my GC i have completed my Management program from Northwestern University and now i got myself ported to EB2. Knowing i cant got anywhere helped me focus on my Masters and get it completed. Now i am waiting to get the GC before i look for a new job. I think porting from EB3 to EB2 is going to help people in the EB3 queue who are not supported by their companies to covert to EB2.
The only scenario where porting from EB3 to EB2 would help someone else in the EB3 queue is when the person who ported does not use the regular allotment of the EB3 and hence another EB3 person gets it. But then, a lot of EB3 folks get in front of other EB3s by moving to EB2 and this reduces the chance of the extra visa numbers reaching EB3. I would say porting is not good for the EB3 people staying in EB3 except a few situations.
The only scenario where porting from EB3 to EB2 would help someone else in the EB3 queue is when the person who ported does not use the regular allotment of the EB3 and hence another EB3 person gets it. But then, a lot of EB3 folks get in front of other EB3s by moving to EB2 and this reduces the chance of the extra visa numbers reaching EB3. I would say porting is not good for the EB3 people staying in EB3 except a few situations.
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arsh007
10-05 09:48 AM
Arsh,
Good to know these info.
Could you please let me know what kind of visa/work permit you were on in Brussels? Is there a way to be a permanent resident there?
Thanks
I was on a "Belgium work permit" which had to be renewed each year and was linked to the employer just like the H1. The renewal process itself took a few weeks. Living and working for 5 years or more allows you to become a permanent resident (Please check again since this information is from 2000-2002 and rules may have changed since then). The Belgium work permit allows you to work in that country but you are free to travel across any EU country (France, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Luxemborug, Germany etc).
Good to know these info.
Could you please let me know what kind of visa/work permit you were on in Brussels? Is there a way to be a permanent resident there?
Thanks
I was on a "Belgium work permit" which had to be renewed each year and was linked to the employer just like the H1. The renewal process itself took a few weeks. Living and working for 5 years or more allows you to become a permanent resident (Please check again since this information is from 2000-2002 and rules may have changed since then). The Belgium work permit allows you to work in that country but you are free to travel across any EU country (France, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Luxemborug, Germany etc).
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03-22 02:40 AM
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myvoice23
07-31 01:09 PM
Gurus,
I know most of you might be busy looking for the bill.
Please post your exp with infopass in Dallas TX
I had infopass appointment 2 days ago to enquiry about name check status. You stand on the line the security guy check your infopass appointment confirmation letter, and verifies the appointment time. if it is > 15 min. then he asks you to come 15 min. before. The receiptionist calls the next person in line. Takes the infopass appointment cfrm letter, and ask for what is the purpose of the appointment. Once she verifies it, If she gives you a token then you will go inside and talk to immigration officer.
I know most of you might be busy looking for the bill.
Please post your exp with infopass in Dallas TX
I had infopass appointment 2 days ago to enquiry about name check status. You stand on the line the security guy check your infopass appointment confirmation letter, and verifies the appointment time. if it is > 15 min. then he asks you to come 15 min. before. The receiptionist calls the next person in line. Takes the infopass appointment cfrm letter, and ask for what is the purpose of the appointment. Once she verifies it, If she gives you a token then you will go inside and talk to immigration officer.
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12-17 09:03 AM
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